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Breakthrough Minds Episode 6: A Conversation with Patrick Smith, zally
Podcasts
February 10, 2026

In this episode, Patrick Smith, Founder and CEO of zally, joins host Raj Mahapatra to discuss Patrick’s entrepreneurial journey and the development of zally, a behavioral AI company. They emphasize the critical need for technology to adapt to human behaviors rather than requiring humans to conform to technology.

Conversation Highlights:

  • Patrick’s Entrepreneurial Journey
    Patrick reflects on his early entrepreneurial ventures, beginning at age 10 with two businesses. He discusses how these experiences shaped his career and the valuable lessons he learned along the way.
  • Founding zally
    Patrick shares the personal experience that inspired him to build zally and explores the applications of behavioral AI.
  • Ethics and Guardrails in AI
    Patrick and Raj examine the ethical implications of AI, emphasizing the need for guardrails and the importance of maintaining human oversight in technology development.
  • Future Implications of Behavioral AI
    Patrick discusses potential applications of behavioral AI across various industries, including healthcare and security, as well as the possible impacts of these advancements.

Meet the host and this episode’s guest:

  • Patrick Smith
  • Raj Mahapatra

Listen to the episode here. 

This episode may feature current or former clients of Wilson Sonsini. This podcast is for general informational purposes and is not intended to provide and should not be relied on as legal advice. The information in this podcast is not tailored to a particularized situation or jurisdiction, may not reflect the current state of the law, and should not be considered a substitute for the advice of your own legal counsel. You should not consider this podcast an invitation to form an attorney-client relationship, and no attorney-client relationship is created by your use of this podcast. Wilson Sonsini disclaims all liability in respect to any actions taken or not taken based on the content of this podcast and notes that prior results do not guarantee a similar outcome. This podcast may be considered attorney advertising in certain jurisdictions. To learn more about Wilson Sonsini visit https://www.wsgr.com.  

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